3 Reason Why I Like To WASTE MY MONEY on Internet Marketing
This post was meant to be a short answer for a discussion in Digital point forum about membership sites comparison. I did try to make simple answer, at the end i just realized i already spend few hours to write what i got in mind.
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HI Jason & bimawarrior,Thanks for the great advise you gave here.
bimawarrior, you seems to join a lot of membership site, have you really go through all the content and material from the membership site you join? you mention there’s another 3 membership site you’re joining right now, is it good or bad? dont you feel there’s information overloaded and not sure where to start when there’s too much information given?
I’m been with DP and WF for quite sometimes now, but not really an active member, you’re right, you can find any information here and there by using the search function and members are very supportive too, but you have to know the foundation and follow the lesson step by step as a newbie first before you know what question you gonna ask right? the forum is too broad and you hardly know which one to focus for unless you already have something in mind..
I am going to have a try on earn1kaday, let’s see how it goes for couple of months first, WA is also great, but as a newbie, i believe earn1kaday can help me more to achieve my success…
thanks folks for all your advice here, you people are really awesome!
No problem Ivy, glad that i am able to share my 2cents.
If you ask whether i went through all the content and material like i am in WA, i’d say yes i do. If you ask whether i went through all peps talk, read all the threads, i’d say no i don’t do that. With limited time i got i have to be picky.
Hey, i have to spare time to run my own shop and i am using dial up connection which charged as timebased of $1/hour (yeah, i’m living in stone age, lol). It’s pain in my pocket if i have to look around reading something that don’t contribute mainly to what i really need.
So, I just went to sticky posts and major posts (post with high reply and viewed). I read through them and if i found its interesting i’ll copy paste it and keep it in my organized folder and re read it when i am offline.
I usually go through this process only for the first week of my membership, and if i found its interesting, i’ll read for more and sometimes give a thread a comment or two and share my 2cents just like this. If i find it’s not that interesting, i’ll rarely give comment or contribute. I’ll just go through the whole important things i can get from the forum till my membership ends.
Some will say what i’m doing is waste of money and in-effective, i won’t object.
I do waste money, I “like” wasting money on Internet Marketing because i know it’s for good reasons such as :
I am wasting money to educate myself.
Education is the best investment one could give to themself as it will last for their life time. I see educating myself on Internet Marketing is nothing to lose for. As i can apply most of what i learned on IM into my real life into my retail shop with 22 of employee to feed.
Before jump into IM i never though of how to value my time.
That is the first and maybe one of the most important thing i ever learned from IM.
I learned that from the very first paid membership i joined (in beginning of February if i’m not mistaken). It was $1 for 2week trial signup, they gave free ebook for their member. It was simple but really deep, it talk about how to success in life especially in IM. I have re-read for few times already. Unfortunately i can’t commit myself to that membership since it was so expensive for me.
IM open my mind about outsourcing. It gave me a great advantage on my business now. My old mindset was to do ALL i could do by myself to save some money, which later i realized i should consider more than just to save money.
I could spend a day mumbling about what i have learned from Internet Marketing that i applied to my business for these few month alone
I am wasting money to learn how to make money.
I like the saying, you will need to spend some money to get more money.
People said you can make money without money in IM. such as by doing bummarketing promoting affiliate products. But I won’t say bummarketing can be done without spendmoney at all, because you still will need to invest some time and money for at least paying your internet subscribtion (talkin about $1/hour dial-up connection here,lol)
I am wasting money to find the best membership where i can be part of community and ‘plant’ my self for time to come.
I have a firm believe that to be success in life especially in Internet Marketing one will need a community to support, the better if you can find or pay a good mentor.
I like what Napoleon Hill wrote in Think and Grow Rich
You will become like people who you spend your time the most with.
Yea, maybe that is not the exact phrase, but sort of
i might need to read that book once again.
So with the mind of to find the best community (in this term forum) as fast as possible, i spend my money as much as i can afford than stop and dig into one or two that i see could give most benefit for me for future to come.
I don’t feel i waste money on bad membership i paid for. I always try to look something positive from what i do.
Even the worse membership i joined still has something i can learn from.
The membership was on WSO, the sales letter the testimonial etc, was pretty damn good, and i was lured. Two weeks from the date i sign up, bang! the site was offered to sell here in DP and sitepoint. In my understanding the owner use the number of member joined as his selling point. What did i learn? To be more carefull before buying anything from WSO.
Read big mike’s Warrior Forum Manifesto to help you “save” yourself from WSO’s
That last point is maybe the main reason i subscribe to few membership in a time.
I was looking for the right place where i can hone my knowledge as fast as possible which is through paid membership forum.
Free forum like WF can be as good as well, but i still see paid site will do better.
As E1KaD, i can have the resources i need in one place. I don’t actually need to buy anything more to educate myself, as there is a lot of things to learn provided and set to be downloaded in download area.
Have you ever heard that by read one ebook about how to make money online actually can help you make money online if you act upon it? You can find many free ebooks in the internet with various quality, but you can get a lot selected ebook in download E1KaD’s area.
Oh btw, i forgot the cons of WF. I you are like me, you might need to stay a little bit far from WF’s WSO thread. I found its hard for me to refuse buying WSO thrown everyweek, lol. Maybe this can also be a reason that justify me to be a member of paid membership rather than only as a member of WF
Reading people’s opinion and discussing which membership is better, won’t give you a very good insight. Especially when it comes to membership that already has a great buzz like WA and E1KaD. It will only give you a bigger curiosity, at least on me.
So, the best way to solve your curiosity is by jump and pay the forum admission fee and make yourself wet.
Than decide which one to keep.
I think to know which one is better is depend on your needs. Maybe you should ask yourself what do you want and need from a membership. Do you really need paid one? How much you willing to pay? There is so many factor, its all back to you.
I have just jump and learn about IM last January, i even started my blog in the new year ever. I tell you this so you can see i am not a better IM than you are.
At first, i don’t really know what i need. I just spend money from ebook to ebook, WSO to WSO.
But with time pass by, you will eventually know what you will need to learn and focus on, you will know what you need to pay for.
bimawarrior, you seems to join a lot of membership site, have you really go through all the content and material from the membership site you join? you mention there’s another 3 membership site you’re joining right now, is it good or bad? dont you feel there’s information overloaded and not sure where to start when there’s too much information given?
Sorry if my post was not detailed, three other membership i joined was all PLR membership, where the membership service is providing people will downloadable PLR and Resell Right Products. I joined with a mind to resell those products and to use some of them for my ‘niche project’. Two of them provide member forum where people can share their though and learn how to’s of PLR business one of them don’t. It just provide a download section, i’ll quit from the other two and stick to the one.
I am going to have a try on earn1kaday, let’s see how it goes for couple of months first, WA is also great, but as a newbie, i believe earn1kaday can help me more to achieve my success…
That’s really a great decision! I believe you will find gems in E1KaD, but i do warn you E1KaD was not designed for newbie in mind. It was designed more for experienced IM’ers, i still recommend WA if you really are newbie as i was few months ago, and you’re in doubt what you need to learn about to success in IM. But i doubt you are newbie
And it’s all about your preference
Anyway, if any of you who read this post and convinced to join E1KaD and don’t have any preference where to join E1KaD from, i’d be thankfull if you join from my link here :
I know some people would like to search for bonus on signup, i did too
In my experience I don’t think you will need bonus to signup on E1KaD as you will find everything you need in E1KaD already, and you will not want to confuse your mind by learning different things.
Anyway if you do want bonus, here is my offer, you can get bonus on any WSO on sale or any PLR product that has the right to be put on membership sites or can be given away.
I was thinking to give a first month ‘$10 cashback’ for people who sign up from my link. But i won’t since it just gonna devalue E1KaD.
Drop me an email to hendra at hokkymart dot com and notice me here by posting a comment, i’ll see what i can do for you.
Please be remind this offer is limited time as i am trying to figure out what bonus should be compliment to E1KaD’s membership
Heck this post was supposed to be short answer isn’t it?
Feel free to comment and feel free to ask anything about E1KaD or anything, i’ll try my best and i’d be glad to to answer.
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Hi Henbima,
I try to purchase E1KDAY membership from your affiliate link but Dennis reply me that they only pay affiliate member through clickbank, and with that, I can’t pay through paypal. Well, in this case, i will need to get a debit card first before I purchase from them, hopefully I can get it sooner.
I want them to rewards you as a tremendous affiliate, and I will not purchase from them directly if they don’t reward you
Yes, you’re right, I’m from Asia, and is Malaysia. Derek Gehl did comes to Malaysia last year, and I am one of the lucky who grab this chance to attend his seminar. Well, the seminar is not for novice through, as I went with my bf and he can’t really understand what Derek’s explain about.
phewww.. lucky me who’s from IT background and at least, I can catch what he and his mates explain there…
I spend around $100 for adwords, and i only get $20 in commission LOL
what a failure!
Do you have any instant messenger? if you have msn, you can add me at ivychai75@hotmail.com
Hope to see ya soon!
Henbima reply on April 29, 2008:
Hi Ivy,
Thank you so much for your willingness to sign up by my link, even though you have to delay your membership in E1KaD. I hope you
I really appreciate it Ivy! As my sign of appreciation I’ll do my best to help you go through E1KaD, even though it’s very well structured already and most people would be glad to help you
One thing i recommend is, to follow through Dennis’s email that point you what you might need to check as a new member. Also, download the 5 bucks a day ebookand read it as soon as possible (it is still sold for $47)
It is a book full of inspiration and motivation for me and many E1KaD’s member
Thing that make it better to join E1KaD today rather than i did two month ago is, Dennis has set up an auto messaging system that will give you a link to a new download every few days or so, with an information what you can learn from the download and how you can benefit with.
This is better than when i first join,. That time everything is available in download section. As a newbie who saw lots of free information (some are MRR&PLR products), i just go grab and download without really know what i can and will do with the informations.
Talk about information OVERLOAD
Wow, i never knew he went to Asian country!
Maybe i should keep an eye on their schedule, who knows i will have the chance to attend the seminar as well. Especially if Air Asia has discount for Surabaya-KL
Was it your first IM seminar? how long did the seminar? do they teach basic or very advance information? how much did you pay for it?
Sorry for asking so much, i once interested in buying Derek’s home learning package, but it was over $350++
including it’s mailing fee
I thought you were from Singapore, since many Asian IM i know are from Singapore.
But i think Malaysia has some well known Internet Marketer as well. The one i respect and learn much from is Edmund Loh, maybe you can be the next
$100 is quite a lot for our currency isn’t it? Especially if we still have make no money at all before ![]()
I have no courage to drop that sum of money for adwords yet, since all my effort so far was selling Internet Marketing Ebooks
About MSN, Unfortunately i don’t have MSN, didn’t installed it ![]()
but i do have yahoo mess -> henrus111 at yahoo dot com.
Gonna be great if we can chat ![]()
Thanks!
Your right education on the IM is expensive. I have been doing for several months and feel like mentoring in addition has put more on the path. I do a lot of calling by phone or skype before I jump into stuff now.
Henbima reply on May 2, 2008:
Hi Sid!
I think not all education in IM are actually expensive.
It depends on the model of education you’re going with.
Learning by searching for the information for your self could be free, if only you know what you are looking for
I agree that mentoring or personal coaching could give a tremendous edge as you will be guided and lead step by step by people who have good track record and have a proven success track record.
As far as i can see, most mentoring program are expensive (mostly >500, even though there some under 500). And mentoring will also need us to really dedicate our time and focus to the program only.
It might be best for people who are full timer in IM, this last point is the reason why i never take any mentoring program.
Care to share more who are you mentoring with and how much do you spend?
Thanks
Hi Henbima,
I’ve added you to yahoo, quite busy for this few days and not being able to chat so much.. you’re from surabaya? wow.. is quite near to Malaysia, I’ve been to Jakarta before, but not surabaya, is it on another island then jakarta?
I’ve several friends from Indonesia, they dont speak good english, your english is really excellent, is really hard to believe that you’re from Indo!
[quote]Was it your first IM seminar? how long did the seminar? do they teach basic or very advance information? how much did you pay for it? [/quote]
Yupe.. this is my first seminar, it is actually a bootcamp organize in Malaysia here, actually Derek did went to singapore after this bootcamp. Well, it lasted for 3 days, to be exact, is 2.5 days.
Derek really teach alot on IM, is really a good start if you do not know anything about IM, he talk about web 2.0, seo, ppc,ebay and all that… but not too much touching on affiliate. He encourage you to build your own product rather than affiliate.
Well, to be honest, I think if you had attended so many course and membership site, you do not need to buy the product, he talks about basic like teaching you on keyword searching, niched market, etc…
I saw alot of ebooks from wso and DP, and in my opinion, WF and DP goes more further than his course. The bootcamp only cost me about $150 USD and he did promote alot of his products during the bootcamp.
Afterall, I believe earn1kaday teach deeper technique than his, well, he did encourage you to get his 6 months couching which cost few thousands USD, is more than I can afford…
Hope this well help you to decide… if you search on DP or WF, there’s people asking about Derek’s course and alot reply is that there’s not necessary to buy it…
Henbima reply on May 2, 2008:
Hi Ivy,
It’s okay, we can chit chat by this blog if you want it ![]()
Surabaya is in the same Island as Jakarta. Jakarta is in the West Java and Surabaya is in the East Java.
Yeah it’s quite near to Malaysia, only 5hours of flight if i’m not mistaken. I went to KL last November
Actually i have house in Surabaya which i visit every few months, i stayed in Surabaya few years ago to study.
But now i have moved to my hometown, it’s a small city in West Nusa Tenggara where i run my own shop.
Hey, thanks again for the compliment.
I think my English has improve because of my activity in IM ![]()
You should read my very first post in this blog, i was thinking to delete it, but kept it instead so i can compare it to date to see what progress i have been making.
Maybe you should suggest your friends to start learn IM too to improve their English?:D
Wow $150 for 2 days seems quite cheap.
I think the seminar is an entry for him to offer his thousands USD backend product like you just mentioned. Typicall method used by Internet Marketers
Hmmm…. Now i am not really sure if i will learn something more if i attend seminar like Derek’s. One thing for sure i am interested from seminar like Derek’s is, to meet other local IMers on the seminar.
Anyway, thanks for the great info Ivy! That is really a depth information ‘from an insider’
Yes, i think in E1KaD you will see something deeper.
Maybe more detail, where you can learn a lot by just reading threads by threads and raise your hand, to ask for question in part you don’t really understand.
So Ivy, i see you’re really interest in Affiliate Marketing and maybe quit your day job as well?(ssst… i won’t tell your boss, lol).
Have you check this website : http://www.quityourdayjob.com.
I know this great blog from my E1KaD friends, and as far as i can say this blog is awesome for people who want to work on affiliate marketing but have shoestring budget, people like people like me (and you maybe)
Jeremy Palmer wrote an awesome ebook which sold for $47, but now offered for Free!
He also has a free limited training called the BlackInk project just for 1000people. I am lucky to be able to enter the training as the waiting list. I think you should check this one too.
I was going to post a blog post about this BlackInk project, but got a little bit bussy with my $5buck a day project
Keep in touch!
Ivy,
You should be able to use Clickbank so sign up through Hendra’s link
Give it another try.
Hendra…fabulous post! I gave you a little boost over at E1KAD as a success story ![]()
Henbima reply on May 2, 2008:
Jenn,
Great to see you here! Never though any of E1KaD member would show up and drop a comment here
This post came from my honest experience so far in IM world, that is why it was pretty ‘easy’ for me to wrote it down.
It’s harder when i tried to wrote with an intention to sell something
Once again, thanks for the compliment here and at E1KaD. Once again E1KaD really make my day ![]()




Hey Henbima,
I am so impress with what you wrote here. Are you sure English is not your native language?? you wrote an excellent english here! I will be very satisfy if I can have even 50% of your skill here.
I do agree with you, I’m with WF and DP for quite sometimes, and I can’t go off my eyes from WSO and DP’s buy and sell corner. There’s a time I am addicted to DP’s buy and sell corner, and you know what I did? I will feel something not right if I don’t bought anything from that session each day. Same case in WSO, as WSO stuff is more expensive compare to DP’s, I will say I would at least bought 1 WSO per week, I really “invest” alot of $$$ in that 2 corner,not to say I’m not earning anything, I did earn,but the $$$ I earn can’t even cover on half of my spending there. I did try adwords before, but as a novice like me, I spend 100% of my investment in adwords with ZERO sales.
I did get disappointed and give up IM and to me, Make Money Online is just waste of time, I begun to have an opinion that it is more safer to get a real job and stick to it, at least, you got a fix income here and won’t worry about losing money in anything you spend. But in deep inside, I know that this thinking is not right, you won’t go far for job security, I mean, with the economy we have right now, how much is the increment your boss will give next year? what is the inflation rate will you be facing? is the inflation rate more than your increment? obviously, everyone can answer that!
I did attend Derek Gehl seminar last year about IM, and I can’t say I have information overloaded here! In the 3 days seminar I attend, I can’t help to says every information Derek gave is so valuable, I really learn a lot from there especially on developing a niche site! Thanks to Derek Gehl!
I’m going to sign up for earn1kaday under your link, hope to meet you there soon! I hope we both can achieve the success that we want and hope to have you as my learning mate if you don’t mind, we still have a long journey to go from here!
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Henbima reply on April 28, 2008:
Wow, thank you very much for the compliment ivy. You take me to the moon with your nice compliment
Anyway you’re doing really good as well, at least i don’t notice any gramatical error up there.
No, i am not from an English speaking country
and from your name, i suspect you’re an Asian just like me? But i doubt, since you mentioned about Derek Gehl’s seminar. I never knew if he do any seminar in Asia
I am jealous you can attend such a great seminar… I won’t have that valuable chance in my country…
I struggled for few hours writing and editing this post. I tried my best to make it readable and make sense.
Heck, i think as far as people know what we’re talking about, we should not go too far into detail and get discourage to write what we got in mind.
About being a WSO addict, very funny i saw you’re just like me. I wonder how many people out there also got the same ‘disease’ as we got here
I have to confess i haven’t fully quit my bad habit buying into “another next great things”. But i have significantly reduce that habit compared to my “early days”.
What i did is, i don’t go to WF if i don’t need to. If i do looking for something, i’ll just simply search for the topics i need and close that tab as soon as possible before my eyes capture some offer i would not able to refuse
I won’t deny some of the products offered in WSO are totally great and could possibly change my future if i learn and APPLY it religiously. And yes, some of the products are just another crap or a rehearsal of information i already knew but put into sales as a some sort of secret.
Talkin about great WSO, I bought great WSO for great price this week. SEO Mindset ebook by Brad Callen. It was one of the best $10 i ever spent on WSO (gulp….i hope i don’t trigger your buying mode button)
Once again, to those who read this post, i don’t mean to offend WF, i trully respect WF and their WSO as one of the best place where you can get IM information.
I just want to point out that one should consider their purchase with cautious and analyze whether it gonna benefit for you or just gonna be a digital dust you buy to satisfy your curiosity and not satisfying your need. I think it does apply to all product in the internet.
I think one should ask themselves do this purchase gonna benefit me, gonna add value to my current project? Don;t just think, hey this might gonna be a good addition to my “future-but-not-sure-when-project”
There i goes into another long-can’t-stop rambling once again…
About adwords, actually i am planning to start to learn it next week. I’ve tried the free methods such as making niche site then use the bummarketing method. Unfortunately i find it’s really hard for me to write an article, so i decide to postpone my niche site project and try on PPC.
Good news is, you will found a lot of experienced PPC’er in E1KaD and they share tremendous amount of detail information for free. Their bread and butter.
Sometimes i wonder why don’t they just sell they pack their information and sell it on E1KaD member as special report? i believe it will sell like peanuts. But that is the wonderfull of E1KaD member
So, how much did you really spent on that failed campaign ivy? How long did your budget last?
Hmmm… I can see you have try more methods of making money online than i do, i am honoured to have you as my learning mate. I doubt you will learn much from me, as i am not a better newbie than you are
However i am really exited to have you as my learning mate whom i’ll be able to share with. Feel free to pm or contact me anytime Ivy
Thanks for signing up with my link, see you there in the forum!
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